Miscellaneous · Q2: Two children: both males given at least one male, ; both females given the elder is female,
A couple has two children,
(i) Find the probability that both children are males, if it is known that at least one of the children is male.
(ii) Find the probability that both children are females, if it is known that the elder child is a female.
Writing the elder child first, the sample space is , each outcome with probability .
(i) Let : both children are males, and : at least one child is male.
, and .
So and .
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(ii) Let : both children are females, and : the elder child is female.
, and .
So and .
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Want the reason behind every step, the basics and the checks?
Write down the four equally likely families, elder child first: MM, MF, FM, FF. Each piece of information keeps some of them and throws the rest away. "At least one male" keeps three families, and only one of them is MM: . "The elder is female" keeps two families, and one of them is FF: . The two answers differ because the two pieces of information keep different families.
- Given
- A couple with two children. Not written, but meant (as everywhere in this chapter): each child is equally likely to be male or female, independently of the other, so the four outcomes are equally likely.
- To find
- (i) P(both males | at least one male). (ii) P(both females | elder female).
- Plan
- (1) List the sample space with the elder child first. (2) In each part, write the two events as sets. (3) Use . (4) Check by counting families.
Basics you need
Two children, each M or F: outcomes, MM, MF, FM, FF, when we keep track of which child is the elder. Basics: multiply the choices
when the outcomes are equally likely. Basics: P(E) = n(E)/n(S)
, provided . Lesson: conditional probability
Part (i): both males, given at least one male
The sample space, elder child first
Write M for male and F for female, with the elder child first. Then
and each outcome has probability .
Each child has 2 possibilities, so there are families. MF (elder male, younger female) and FM (elder female, younger male) are different outcomes; merging them into one "one of each" outcome would give a sample space whose outcomes are not equally likely. Part (ii) needs the order anyway, because it mentions the elder child.Multiply the choices. Basics: countingThe two events as sets
Let : both children are males, and : at least one child is male. Then
So and .
The four equally likely families, elder child down the side and younger child across the top. Left: "at least one male" keeps the 3 shaded families, and 1 of them is MM. Right: "the elder child is female" keeps the bottom row, 2 families, and 1 of them is FF. "At least one male" means one male or two males: every family except FF. Both males is the single family MM, which lies inside , so .An event is a set of outcomes. Basics: events as setsApply the definition
Knowing that at least one child is male shrinks the sample space to the three families MM, MF, FM. They stay equally likely, and only one of them has two males.Section 13.2, Definition 1. Lesson: conditional probabilityWhy the answer is not
It is tempting to say "one child is a boy, the other is a boy or a girl, so ". But "at least one is male" does not say which child is male. In MF it is the elder, in FM the younger, in MM both. Of these three equally likely families, one has a second boy: .
The argument treats "the other child" as a fixed child, but the information does not single one child out. Part (ii) is different: there the information is about one named child (the elder).Knowing something shrinks the world. Examples 1 to 7
Part (ii): both females, given the elder is female
The two events as sets
Use the same sample space as Part (i), Step 1. Let : both children are females, and : the elder child is female. Then
So and .
The elder child is the first letter, so is the two families that start with F. Both females is FF, which is one of them.An event is a set of outcomes. Basics: events as setsApply the definition
Given that the elder is female, only FM and FF remain, and they are equally likely. Both children are females only in FF.Section 13.2, Definition 1. Lesson: conditional probabilityA second way to see
Once the elder is known to be female, both children are females exactly when the younger child is female. The younger child is male or female with probability each, whatever the elder is, so the answer is .
The two children are independent, so information about the elder tells us nothing about the younger. In Part (i) the information did not name a child, which is why its answer is different.Independent events. Lesson: independent events
(i) P(both males | at least one male) . (ii) P(both females | elder female) .
(Textbook answer: (i) (ii) .)
Picture 400 families, 100 of each type MM, MF, FM, FF. (i) At least one male: families, of which 100 are MM: , the same as . (ii) Elder female: families, of which 100 are FF: , the same as .
- Answering in Part (i). "At least one" is not the same as "the elder" or "the younger"; it keeps three families, not two.
- Answering . That is P(both males) before we are told anything. The information changes the probability.
- Using only three outcomes (two boys, two girls, one of each). These are not equally likely: "one of each" happens in two ways, MF and FM.
- Keep the order of the children (elder first) so that every outcome is equally likely.
- "At least one is male" and "the elder is male" are different information, and they give different answers ( and ).
- Given an event , count only the outcomes in ; the answer is the share of them that also lie in .
Every fact used, and where it comes from
| Fact | Used in | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Multiply the choices: outcomes | Part (i), Step 1 | Counting, Class XI (Basics: counting) |
| for equally likely outcomes | Part (i), Step 2; Part (ii), Step 1 | Classical probability, Class XI (Basics: classical probability) |
| , | Part (i), Step 3; Part (ii), Step 2 | Section 13.2, Definition 1 (Lesson: conditional probability) |
| Dividing by a fraction | Part (i), Step 3; Part (ii), Step 2 | Arithmetic (Basics: dividing by a fraction) |
| Independent children: news about the elder does not change the chances for the younger | Part (ii), Step 3 | Section 13.4, Definition 2 (Lesson: independent events) |
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