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Chapter 13 · Probability

Miscellaneous · Q2: Two children: both males given at least one male, 13\frac13⁠; both females given the elder is female, 12\frac12

Miscellaneous ExerciseConditional probability · Section 13.2
The question

A couple has two children,

(i) Find the probability that both children are males, if it is known that at least one of the children is male.

(ii) Find the probability that both children are females, if it is known that the elder child is a female.

Exam answer

Writing the elder child first, the sample space is S={MM,MF,FM,FF}S = \{MM, MF, FM, FF\}⁠, each outcome with probability 14\frac14⁠.

(i) Let EE⁠: both children are males, and FF⁠: at least one child is male.

E={MM}E = \{MM\}⁠, F={MM,MF,FM}F = \{MM, MF, FM\} and E∩F={MM}E \cap F = \{MM\}⁠.

So P(F)=34P(F) = \frac34 and P(E∩F)=14P(E \cap F) = \frac14⁠.

P(E∣F)=P(E∩F)P(F)=14÷34=14×43\begin{aligned} P(E|F) &= \frac{P(E \cap F)}{P(F)} \\ &= \frac14 \div \frac34 = \frac14 \times \frac43 \end{aligned}

∴ P(E∣F)=13\therefore\ P(E|F) = \frac13⁠.

(ii) Let AA⁠: both children are females, and BB⁠: the elder child is female.

A={FF}A = \{FF\}⁠, B={FM,FF}B = \{FM, FF\} and A∩B={FF}A \cap B = \{FF\}⁠.

So P(B)=24P(B) = \frac24 and P(A∩B)=14P(A \cap B) = \frac14⁠.

P(A∣B)=P(A∩B)P(B)=14÷24=14×42\begin{aligned} P(A|B) &= \frac{P(A \cap B)}{P(B)} \\ &= \frac14 \div \frac24 = \frac14 \times \frac42 \end{aligned}

∴ P(A∣B)=12\therefore\ P(A|B) = \dfrac12⁠.

Want the reason behind every step, the basics and the checks?

The one idea this problem is built on

Write down the four equally likely families, elder child first: MM, MF, FM, FF. Each piece of information keeps some of them and throws the rest away. "At least one male" keeps three families, and only one of them is MM: 13\frac13⁠. "The elder is female" keeps two families, and one of them is FF: 12\frac12⁠. The two answers differ because the two pieces of information keep different families.

Given, to find, and the plan
Given
A couple with two children. Not written, but meant (as everywhere in this chapter): each child is equally likely to be male or female, independently of the other, so the four outcomes are equally likely.
To find
(i) P(both males | at least one male). (ii) P(both females | elder female).
Plan
(1) List the sample space with the elder child first. (2) In each part, write the two events as sets. (3) Use P(E∣F)=P(E∩F)P(F)P(E|F) = \frac{P(E \cap F)}{P(F)}⁠. (4) Check by counting families.

Basics you need

1Listing a sample space

Two children, each M or F: 2×2=42 \times 2 = 4 outcomes, MM, MF, FM, FF, when we keep track of which child is the elder. Basics: multiply the choices

2Classical probability

P(E)=n(E)n(S)P(E) = \frac{n(E)}{n(S)} when the outcomes are equally likely. Basics: P(E) = n(E)/n(S)

3Conditional probability (Section 13.2)

P(E∣F)=P(E∩F)P(F)P(E|F) = \frac{P(E \cap F)}{P(F)}⁠, provided P(F)≠0P(F) \neq 0⁠. Lesson: conditional probability

4Dividing by a fraction

14÷34=14×43=13\frac14 \div \frac34 = \frac14 \times \frac43 = \frac13⁠. Basics: dividing by a fraction

Part (i): both males, given at least one male

  1. The sample space, elder child first

    Write M for male and F for female, with the elder child first. Then

    S={MM,MF,FM,FF},S = \{MM, MF, FM, FF\},

    and each outcome has probability 14\frac14⁠.

    Each child has 2 possibilities, so there are 2×2=42 \times 2 = 4 families. MF (elder male, younger female) and FM (elder female, younger male) are different outcomes; merging them into one "one of each" outcome would give a sample space whose outcomes are not equally likely. Part (ii) needs the order anyway, because it mentions the elder child.
    Multiply the choices. Basics: counting
  2. The two events as sets

    Let EE⁠: both children are males, and FF⁠: at least one child is male. Then

    E={MM},F={MM,MF,FM},E = \{MM\}, \quad F = \{MM, MF, FM\}, E∩F={MM}.E \cap F = \{MM\}.

    So P(F)=34P(F) = \frac34 and P(E∩F)=14P(E \cap F) = \frac14⁠.

    (i) at least one male younger child M F elder M F MM MF FM FF (ii) elder child female younger child M F elder M F MM MF FM FF
    The four equally likely families, elder child down the side and younger child across the top. Left: "at least one male" keeps the 3 shaded families, and 1 of them is MM. Right: "the elder child is female" keeps the bottom row, 2 families, and 1 of them is FF.
    "At least one male" means one male or two males: every family except FF. Both males is the single family MM, which lies inside FF⁠, so E∩F=EE \cap F = E⁠.
    An event is a set of outcomes. Basics: events as sets
  3. Apply the definition

    P(E∣F)=P(E∩F)P(F)=14÷34=14×43=13.\begin{aligned} P(E|F) &= \frac{P(E \cap F)}{P(F)} \\ &= \frac14 \div \frac34 \\ &= \frac14 \times \frac43 = \frac13. \end{aligned}
    Knowing that at least one child is male shrinks the sample space to the three families MM, MF, FM. They stay equally likely, and only one of them has two males.
    Section 13.2, Definition 1. Lesson: conditional probability
  4. Why the answer is not 12\frac12

    It is tempting to say "one child is a boy, the other is a boy or a girl, so 12\frac12". But "at least one is male" does not say which child is male. In MF it is the elder, in FM the younger, in MM both. Of these three equally likely families, one has a second boy: 13\frac13⁠.

    The 12\frac12 argument treats "the other child" as a fixed child, but the information does not single one child out. Part (ii) is different: there the information is about one named child (the elder).
    Knowing something shrinks the world. Examples 1 to 7

Part (ii): both females, given the elder is female

  1. The two events as sets

    Use the same sample space as Part (i), Step 1. Let AA⁠: both children are females, and BB⁠: the elder child is female. Then

    A={FF},B={FM,FF},A = \{FF\}, \quad B = \{FM, FF\}, A∩B={FF}.A \cap B = \{FF\}.

    So P(B)=24P(B) = \frac24 and P(A∩B)=14P(A \cap B) = \frac14⁠.

    The elder child is the first letter, so BB is the two families that start with F. Both females is FF, which is one of them.
    An event is a set of outcomes. Basics: events as sets
  2. Apply the definition

    P(A∣B)=P(A∩B)P(B)=14÷24=14×42=12.\begin{aligned} P(A|B) &= \frac{P(A \cap B)}{P(B)} \\ &= \frac14 \div \frac24 \\ &= \frac14 \times \frac42 = \frac12. \end{aligned}
    Given that the elder is female, only FM and FF remain, and they are equally likely. Both children are females only in FF.
    Section 13.2, Definition 1. Lesson: conditional probability
  3. A second way to see 12\frac12

    Once the elder is known to be female, both children are females exactly when the younger child is female. The younger child is male or female with probability 12\frac12 each, whatever the elder is, so the answer is 12\frac12⁠.

    The two children are independent, so information about the elder tells us nothing about the younger. In Part (i) the information did not name a child, which is why its answer is different.
    Independent events. Lesson: independent events
Result

(i) P(both males | at least one male) =13= \frac13⁠. (ii) P(both females | elder female) =12= \frac12⁠.

(Textbook answer: (i) 13\frac13 (ii) 12\frac12⁠.)

Check it with numbers

Picture 400 families, 100 of each type MM, MF, FM, FF. (i) At least one male: 100+100+100=300100 + 100 + 100 = 300 families, of which 100 are MM: 100300≈0.3333\frac{100}{300} \approx 0.3333⁠, the same as 13≈0.3333\frac13 \approx 0.3333⁠. (ii) Elder female: 100+100=200100 + 100 = 200 families, of which 100 are FF: 100200=0.5\frac{100}{200} = 0.5⁠, the same as 12=0.5\frac12 = 0.5⁠.

Common mistakes
  1. Answering 12\frac12 in Part (i). "At least one" is not the same as "the elder" or "the younger"; it keeps three families, not two.
  2. Answering 14\frac14⁠. That is P(both males) before we are told anything. The information changes the probability.
  3. Using only three outcomes (two boys, two girls, one of each). These are not equally likely: "one of each" happens in two ways, MF and FM.
What to take away
  1. Keep the order of the children (elder first) so that every outcome is equally likely.
  2. "At least one is male" and "the elder is male" are different information, and they give different answers (13\frac13 and 12\frac12⁠).
  3. Given an event FF⁠, count only the outcomes in FF⁠; the answer is the share of them that also lie in EE⁠.

Every fact used, and where it comes from

FactUsed inSource
Multiply the choices: 2×2=42 \times 2 = 4 outcomesPart (i), Step 1Counting, Class XI (Basics: counting)
P(E)=n(E)n(S)P(E) = \frac{n(E)}{n(S)} for equally likely outcomesPart (i), Step 2; Part (ii), Step 1Classical probability, Class XI (Basics: classical probability)
P(E∣F)=P(E∩F)P(F)P(E|F) = \frac{P(E \cap F)}{P(F)}⁠, P(F)≠0P(F) \neq 0Part (i), Step 3; Part (ii), Step 2Section 13.2, Definition 1 (Lesson: conditional probability)
Dividing by a fractionPart (i), Step 3; Part (ii), Step 2Arithmetic (Basics: dividing by a fraction)
Independent children: news about the elder does not change the chances for the youngerPart (ii), Step 3Section 13.4, Definition 2 (Lesson: independent events)
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