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Chapter 13 · Probability

Exercise 13.2 · Q10: Independent? Given P(not A or not B)=14P(\text{not A or not B}) = \frac14

Exercise 13.2Independent events · Section 13.4
The question

Events AA and BB are such that P(A)=12P(A) = \frac{1}{2}⁠, P(B)=712P(B) = \frac{7}{12} and P(not A or not B)=14P(\text{not A or not B}) = \frac{1}{4}⁠. State whether AA and BB are independent?

Exam answer

P(not A or not B)=P(A′∪B′)P(\text{not A or not B}) = P(A'\cup B')⁠.

P(A′∪B′)=P((A∩B)′)[De Morgan]=1−P(A∩B)\begin{aligned} &P(A'\cup B') \\ &= P\big((A\cap B)'\big) \quad[\text{De Morgan}] \\ &= 1 - P(A\cap B) \end{aligned}

So 1−P(A∩B)=141 - P(A\cap B) = \frac{1}{4}⁠, which gives

P(A∩B)=1−14=34P(A\cap B) = 1 - \frac{1}{4} = \frac{3}{4} P(A) P(B)=12×712=724\begin{aligned} P(A)\,P(B) &= \frac{1}{2}\times\frac{7}{12} \\ &= \frac{7}{24} \end{aligned}

Since 34≠724\frac{3}{4} \ne \frac{7}{24}⁠, P(A∩B)≠P(A) P(B)P(A\cap B) \ne P(A)\,P(B)⁠.

∴ A\therefore\ A and BB are not independent.

The printed data cannot all hold, since P(A∩B)=34P(A\cap B) = \frac34 is larger than P(A)=12P(A) = \frac12⁠. The test above uses the data as printed and gives the answer key's result.

Want the reason behind every step, the basics and the checks?

The one idea this problem is built on

"Not A or not B" means "not both", which is the complement of A∩BA\cap B (De Morgan's law). So the given number tells us P(A∩B)P(A\cap B) directly, and the independence test compares it with P(A) P(B)P(A)\,P(B)⁠. One warning: the value it gives, 34\frac34⁠, is larger than P(A)P(A)⁠, which no real pair of events can do. We work the question as the book intends and then explain the problem with the data.

Given, to find, and the plan
Given
P(A)=12P(A) = \frac12⁠, P(B)=712P(B) = \frac{7}{12}⁠, P(not A or not B)=14P(\text{not A or not B}) = \frac14⁠.
To find
Whether AA and BB are independent.
Plan
(1) Write "not A or not B" as a set. (2) Use De Morgan's law to get P(A∩B)P(A\cap B)⁠. (3) Compare P(A∩B)P(A\cap B) with P(A) P(B)P(A)\,P(B)⁠. (4) Check whether the data can happen at all.

Basics you need

1"Not" and "or" as set operations

"Not A" is the complement A′A' and "or" is the union ∪\cup⁠. Basics: events as sets

2De Morgan's law

A′∪B′=(A∩B)′A'\cup B' = (A\cap B)'⁠: missing at least one of the two sets is the same as not being in both (Class XI, Sets). Basics: Venn diagrams

3The independence test

AA and BB are independent exactly when the probability of both equals the product of the two probabilities (Definition 3, Section 13.4). Lesson: independent events

4A part is never more likely than the whole

If E⊆FE\subseteq F then P(E)≤P(F)P(E) \le P(F)⁠. Since A∩BA\cap B lies inside AA⁠, its probability cannot exceed P(A)P(A) (Class XI). Basics: the addition rule

Solution

  1. Translate the words into sets

    "Not A" is A′A'⁠, "not B" is B′B'⁠, and "or" is a union:

    P(not A or not B)=P(A′∪B′).P(\text{not A or not B}) = P(A'\cup B').
    Writing the event in symbols lets us use the laws of sets on it. "Or" in probability always means "at least one of", that is, a union.
    Events as sets. Basics: events as sets
  2. Use De Morgan's law to find P(A∩B)P(A\cap B)

    P(A′∪B′)=P((A∩B)′)=1−P(A∩B).\begin{aligned} P(A'\cup B') &= P\big((A\cap B)'\big) \\ &= 1 - P(A\cap B). \end{aligned}

    The question gives this as 14\frac14⁠, so

    1−P(A∩B)=14P(A∩B)=1−14=34.\begin{aligned} 1 - P(A\cap B) &= \frac{1}{4} \\ P(A\cap B) &= 1 - \frac{1}{4} = \frac{3}{4}. \end{aligned}
    An outcome is outside AA or outside BB exactly when it is not in both, so A′∪B′=(A∩B)′A'\cup B' = (A\cap B)'⁠. The probability of a complement is 1 minus the probability of the event. This is the only way the given number connects to the overlap.
    De Morgan's law (Class XI, Sets) and P(E′)=1−P(E)P(E') = 1 - P(E)⁠. Basics: Venn diagrams
  3. The independence test

    P(A) P(B)=12×712=724.\begin{aligned} P(A)\,P(B) &= \frac{1}{2}\times\frac{7}{12} \\ &= \frac{7}{24}. \end{aligned}

    With a common denominator, P(A∩B)=34=1824P(A\cap B) = \frac{3}{4} = \frac{18}{24}⁠. Since 1824≠724\frac{18}{24} \ne \frac{7}{24}⁠,

    P(A∩B)≠P(A) P(B),P(A\cap B) \ne P(A)\,P(B),

    so AA and BB are not independent. This is the book's answer.

    Definition 3 says the events are independent exactly when the probability of both equals the product. Here the two numbers differ, and Remark (i) of Section 13.4 calls such events dependent.
    Definition 3 and Remark (i), Section 13.4. Lesson: independent events
  4. A closer look: the data cannot all hold

    A∩BA\cap B is part of AA⁠, so its probability can be at most P(A)=12P(A) = \frac12⁠. But the data force P(A∩B)=34P(A\cap B) = \frac34⁠, and 34>12\frac34 > \frac12⁠. The addition rule shows the same problem from another side:

    P(A∪B)=12+712−34=6+7−912=13,\begin{aligned} P(A\cup B) &= \frac{1}{2} + \frac{7}{12} - \frac{3}{4} \\ &= \frac{6 + 7 - 9}{12} = \frac{1}{3}, \end{aligned}

    which is smaller than P(B)=712P(B) = \frac{7}{12}⁠, although BB lies inside A∪BA\cup B⁠. So no two events in any experiment have these three probabilities.

    For real events with P(A)=12P(A) = \frac12 and P(B)=712P(B) = \frac{7}{12}⁠, the overlap must satisfy

    P(A∩B)≥P(A)+P(B)−1=112,P(A∩B)≤P(A)=12.\begin{aligned} P(A\cap B) &\ge P(A) + P(B) - 1 = \frac{1}{12}, \\ P(A\cap B) &\le P(A) = \frac{1}{2}. \end{aligned}
    possible: 1/12 to 1/2 0 1/12 7/24 1/2 3/4 1 independence from the data values of P(A ∩ B)
    With P(A)=12P(A) = \frac12 and P(B)=712P(B) = \frac{7}{12}⁠, the overlap can only lie between 112\frac{1}{12} and 12\frac12 (shaded). Independence would need 724\frac{7}{24}⁠, inside the range; the printed data force 34\frac34⁠, outside it.

    In terms of the given quantity, P(not A or not B)=1−P(A∩B)P(\text{not A or not B}) = 1 - P(A\cap B) can only lie between 12\frac12 and 1112\frac{11}{12}⁠, and independence would need it to be 1−724=17241 - \frac{7}{24} = \frac{17}{24}⁠. The printed 14\frac14 is outside that range.

    The lower bound comes from the addition rule: P(A∪B)≤1P(A\cup B) \le 1 gives P(A)+P(B)−P(A∩B)≤1P(A) + P(B) - P(A\cap B) \le 1⁠. The upper bound is "a part is never more likely than the whole". The method of Step 3 is unaffected by the inconsistency: it is the test the question practises, and every possible value of P(not A or not B)P(\text{not A or not B}) other than 1724\frac{17}{24} would also give "not independent".
    If E⊆FE\subseteq F then P(E)≤P(F)P(E) \le P(F)⁠; the addition rule (Class XI). Basics: the addition rule
Result

P(A∩B)=1−14=34P(A\cap B) = 1 - \frac14 = \frac34⁠, while P(A) P(B)=724P(A)\,P(B) = \frac{7}{24}⁠. Since P(A∩B)≠P(A) P(B)P(A\cap B) \ne P(A)\,P(B)⁠, AA and BB are not independent.

Note: the printed data are inconsistent, because 34\frac34 is larger than P(A)=12P(A) = \frac12 (Step 4). The answer follows the data as printed.

(Textbook answer: A and B are not independent.)

Check it with numbers

In decimals: P(A∩B)=0.75P(A\cap B) = 0.75⁠, while P(A) P(B)=724≈0.2917P(A)\,P(B) = \frac{7}{24} \approx 0.2917⁠, a different value. The inconsistency also shows in decimals: 0.75>0.5=P(A)0.75 > 0.5 = P(A)⁠, and the addition rule gives P(A∪B)=13≈0.3333P(A\cup B) = \frac13 \approx 0.3333⁠, smaller than P(B)=712≈0.5833P(B) = \frac{7}{12} \approx 0.5833⁠.

Common mistakes
  1. Reading "not A or not B" as "neither". "Neither" is A′∩B′=(A∪B)′A'\cap B' = (A\cup B)'⁠. "Not A or not B" is A′∪B′=(A∩B)′A'\cup B' = (A\cap B)'⁠, "not both".
  2. Taking P(A∩B)=14P(A\cap B) = \frac14⁠. The given 14\frac14 is the complement of A∩BA\cap B⁠; the overlap is 1−141 - \frac14⁠.
  3. Multiplying P(A′) P(B′)P(A')\,P(B') to start. That assumes the independence we are asked to test.
What to take away
  1. "Not A or not B" =A′∪B′=(A∩B)′= A'\cup B' = (A\cap B)'⁠, so P(not A or not B)=1−P(A∩B)P(\text{not A or not B}) = 1 - P(A\cap B)⁠.
  2. To test independence, compare P(A∩B)P(A\cap B) with P(A) P(B)P(A)\,P(B)⁠.
  3. A quick sanity check on any data: the overlap can never be larger than either event.

Every fact used, and where it comes from

FactUsed inSource
De Morgan's law A′∪B′=(A∩B)′A'\cup B' = (A\cap B)'Step 2Class XI, Sets
P(E′)=1−P(E)P(E') = 1 - P(E)Step 2Class XI, Probability (recalled in Section 13.1)
Independence test P(A∩B)=P(A) P(B)P(A\cap B) = P(A)\,P(B)Step 3Definition 3, Section 13.4 (Lesson: independent events)
Dependent if P(A∩B)≠P(A) P(B)P(A\cap B) \ne P(A)\,P(B)Step 3Remark (i), Section 13.4
E⊆FE\subseteq F gives P(E)≤P(F)P(E) \le P(F)Step 4Class XI, Probability
P(A∪B)=P(A)+P(B)−P(A∩B)P(A\cup B) = P(A) + P(B) - P(A\cap B)Step 4Addition rule, Class XI (recalled in Section 13.1)
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