Example 11: Point dividing , in the ratio 2 : 1, internally and externally
Consider two points P and Q with position vectors and . Find the position vector of a point R which divides the line joining P and Q in the ratio 2:1, (i) internally, and (ii) externally.
Here , , and .
(i) R divides PQ internally in the ratio 2 : 1, so
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(ii) R divides PQ externally in the ratio 2 : 1, so
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Want the reason behind every step, the basics and the checks?
The section formula gives the position vector of a point R on the line PQ from the position vectors of P and Q. If R divides PQ in the ratio ,
Each end is weighted by the part of the ratio next to the other end: Q gets , P gets . The formula does not care what and are made of, so here we simply substitute and and simplify.
- Given
- , ; R divides the line joining P and Q in the ratio 2 : 1.
- To find
- when the division is (i) internal, (ii) external.
- Plan
- (1) Read off , , with P the first point. (2) Substitute into the internal formula and simplify. (3) Check that . (4) Repeat with the external formula and check .
Basics you need
"R divides PQ internally in the ratio " means R lies between P and Q with ; "externally" means R lies on the line PQ, outside the segment, with . Basics: dividing in m : n
Internal: ; external: , where and are the position vectors of P and Q (Section 10.5.3, Cases I and II, Figs 10.16 and 10.17). Lesson: the section formula
: terminal minus initial (Section 10.5.2). Lesson: adding arrows, head to tail
Part (i): R divides PQ internally
Read the ratio and choose the formula
The ratio 2 : 1 is written in the order P, Q, so is the part next to P and the part next to Q: . For internal division,
The book states the formula as , where its and are the position vectors of P and Q. In this question the letters and stand for two other vectors, so we write the formula with and to keep the two meanings apart. Since PR is twice RQ, R is nearer to Q, which is why Q carries the larger weight .Section formula, Case I (Section 10.5.3, Fig 10.16). Basics: dividing in m : nSubstitute and simplify
So .
Vectors can be multiplied out and collected like algebra: , and the terms cancel because . The answer has no at all, so R lies on the line through O in the direction of .Vector addition is commutative and associative, and (Sections 10.4 and 10.5). Lesson: the section formulaCheck that PR is twice RQ
So : the two pieces point the same way and PR is twice as long as RQ. R is between P and Q with .
This is the definition the book starts from in Case I: R divides PQ internally in the ratio when , here . Checking it directly confirms both the formula and the algebra.(Section 10.5.2). Lesson: Examples 11–12
Part (ii): R divides PQ externally
The external formula
Now R lies on the line PQ outside the segment, with . Again , , and since ,
External division is internal division with the ratio : the point lies outside, so one of the two pieces points backwards. That is why the plus signs of the internal formula become minus signs. The formula needs ; for no such point exists, because no point outside the segment is equally far from P and Q.Section formula, Case II (Section 10.5.3, Fig 10.17). Lesson: the section formulaSubstitute and simplify
So .
The denominator is . The minus sign in front of the bracket changes both signs inside it: . Then and .(negative of a vector, Section 10.3). Basics: the same algebra rulesCheck, and picture both points
So , and R lies beyond Q with . Also : R is as far beyond Q as Q is from P.
Drawn to scale, one scale on both axes, for the sample choice , , so that P is (3, ) and Q is (1, 1). The internal point (i) splits PQ in the ratio 2 : 1 and lies on the line of , because . The external point (ii) is at , with Q the midpoint of P and R, so . The answers hold for every and ; only the picture uses the sample. For external division the two vectors and point the same way (both from an end towards R), and the first is twice the second. Because , going from P to Q and then the same step again lands on R.
(i) Internally: . (ii) Externally: .
(Textbook answer: (i) ; (ii) .)
Take , (in the xy-plane): P is (3, ) and Q is (1, 1).
(i) The coordinate section formula gives , and , the same point, with . Then and , exactly in the ratio 2 : 1.
(ii) , and , the same point. Then and , again exactly 2 : 1.
- Swapping the weights. is the point with , nearer to P. The weight goes with Q.
- Mixing up the letters. In the book's formula and are the position vectors of P and Q; here they are not. Substituting for gives a wrong answer.
- Losing a sign in part (ii). , so the terms add up to instead of cancelling.
- Internal: ; external: change both plus signs to minus.
- Each end is weighted by the part of the ratio next to the other end.
- Check with (internal) or (external).
Every fact used, and where it comes from
| Fact | Used in | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Section formula, internal division | Part (i), Steps 1, 2 | Section 10.5.3, Case I, Fig 10.16 (Lesson: the section formula) |
| Section formula, external division | Part (ii), Steps 1, 2 | Section 10.5.3, Case II, Fig 10.17 |
| Multiplying out and collecting vector terms | Part (i), Step 2; Part (ii), Step 2 | Sections 10.4 and 10.5 (Basics: the same algebra rules) |
| Vector joining two points: terminal minus initial | Part (i), Step 3; Part (ii), Step 3 | Section 10.5.2 |
| Collinear vectors | Part (ii), Step 3 | Section 10.5 |
| The book's working and answer | Result | Example 11, Section 10.5.3 (Lesson: Examples 11–12) |
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