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Exercise 10.3 · Q6: ∣a⃗∣|\vec a|⁠, ∣b⃗∣|\vec b| when (a⃗+b⃗)⋅(a⃗−b⃗)=8(\vec a+\vec b)\cdot(\vec a-\vec b)=8⁠, ∣a⃗∣=8∣b⃗∣|\vec a|=8|\vec b|

Exercise 10.3Expanding scalar products · Section 10.6.1
The question

Find ∣a⃗∣|\vec a| and ∣b⃗∣|\vec b|⁠, if (a⃗+b⃗)⋅(a⃗−b⃗)=8(\vec a + \vec b)\cdot(\vec a - \vec b) = 8 and ∣a⃗∣=8∣b⃗∣|\vec a| = 8|\vec b|⁠.

Exam answer

Given (a⃗+b⃗)⋅(a⃗−b⃗)=8(\vec a + \vec b)\cdot(\vec a - \vec b) = 8 and ∣a⃗∣=8∣b⃗∣|\vec a| = 8|\vec b|⁠.

(a⃗+b⃗)⋅(a⃗−b⃗)=8⇒a⃗⋅a⃗−a⃗⋅b⃗+b⃗⋅a⃗−b⃗⋅b⃗=8\begin{aligned} &(\vec a + \vec b)\cdot(\vec a - \vec b) = 8 \\ &\Rightarrow \vec a\cdot\vec a - \vec a\cdot\vec b \\ &\quad + \vec b\cdot\vec a - \vec b\cdot\vec b = 8 \end{aligned}

As b⃗⋅a⃗=a⃗⋅b⃗\vec b\cdot\vec a = \vec a\cdot\vec b and r⃗⋅r⃗=∣r⃗∣2\vec r\cdot\vec r = |\vec r|^2⁠,

∣a⃗∣2−∣b⃗∣2=8|\vec a|^2 - |\vec b|^2 = 8

Putting ∣a⃗∣=8∣b⃗∣|\vec a| = 8|\vec b|⁠,

64∣b⃗∣2−∣b⃗∣2=8⇒63∣b⃗∣2=8⇒∣b⃗∣2=863\begin{aligned} 64|\vec b|^2 - |\vec b|^2 &= 8 \\ \Rightarrow 63|\vec b|^2 &= 8 \\ \Rightarrow |\vec b|^2 &= \frac{8}{63} \end{aligned}

As a magnitude is non-negative,

∣b⃗∣=863=2237|\vec b| = \sqrt{\frac{8}{63}} = \frac{2\sqrt2}{3\sqrt7} ∣a⃗∣=8∣b⃗∣=16237|\vec a| = 8|\vec b| = \frac{16\sqrt2}{3\sqrt7}

∴ ∣a⃗∣=16237\therefore\ |\vec a| = \dfrac{16\sqrt2}{3\sqrt7} and ∣b⃗∣=2237|\vec b| = \dfrac{2\sqrt2}{3\sqrt7}⁠.

Want the reason behind every step, the basics and the checks?

The one idea this problem is built on

The scalar product expands like ordinary algebra, so (a⃗+b⃗)⋅(a⃗−b⃗)(\vec a + \vec b)\cdot(\vec a - \vec b) behaves like (a+b)(a−b)=a2−b2(a + b)(a - b) = a^2 - b^2⁠:

(a⃗+b⃗)⋅(a⃗−b⃗)=∣a⃗∣2−∣b⃗∣2.(\vec a + \vec b)\cdot(\vec a - \vec b) = |\vec a|^2 - |\vec b|^2.

That turns the vector equation into an equation about two lengths. The second condition ∣a⃗∣=8∣b⃗∣|\vec a| = 8|\vec b| then leaves one unknown, ∣b⃗∣|\vec b|⁠.

Given, to find, and the plan
Given
(a⃗+b⃗)⋅(a⃗−b⃗)=8(\vec a + \vec b)\cdot(\vec a - \vec b) = 8 and ∣a⃗∣=8∣b⃗∣|\vec a| = 8|\vec b|⁠.
To find
∣a⃗∣|\vec a| and ∣b⃗∣|\vec b|⁠.
Plan
(1) Expand the scalar product. (2) Simplify to ∣a⃗∣2−∣b⃗∣2=8|\vec a|^2 - |\vec b|^2 = 8⁠. (3) Put ∣a⃗∣=8∣b⃗∣|\vec a| = 8|\vec b| and solve for ∣b⃗∣|\vec b|⁠. (4) Find ∣a⃗∣|\vec a|⁠, and check.

Basics you need

1Expanding scalar products

Distributivity (Property 1), commutativity b⃗⋅a⃗=a⃗⋅b⃗\vec b\cdot\vec a = \vec a\cdot\vec b (Observation 7) and r⃗⋅r⃗=∣r⃗∣2\vec r\cdot\vec r = |\vec r|^2 (Observation 3), Section 10.6.1. Basics: dot products obey the same rule

2Magnitudes are non-negative

∣b⃗∣≥0|\vec b| \ge 0 for every vector, so from ∣b⃗∣2=t|\vec b|^2 = t only the root t\sqrt t is possible (Section 10.2). Lesson: the dot product

3Simplifying a square root

mn=mn\sqrt{\frac{m}{n}} = \frac{\sqrt m}{\sqrt n} for m≥0m \ge 0⁠, n>0n > 0⁠, and 8=22\sqrt8 = 2\sqrt2⁠, 63=37\sqrt{63} = 3\sqrt7⁠. Lesson: Examples 13–21

Solution

  1. Expand the scalar product

    (a⃗+b⃗)⋅(a⃗−b⃗)=a⃗⋅a⃗−a⃗⋅b⃗+b⃗⋅a⃗−b⃗⋅b⃗.\begin{aligned} &(\vec a + \vec b)\cdot(\vec a - \vec b) \\ &= \vec a\cdot\vec a - \vec a\cdot\vec b + \vec b\cdot\vec a - \vec b\cdot\vec b. \end{aligned}
    Distributivity lets us multiply out the brackets term by term, as with (a+b)(a−b)(a + b)(a - b)⁠: each term of the first bracket meets each term of the second, giving four scalar products, and the minus sign of −b⃗-\vec b stays with the two products it is in.
    Section 10.6.1, Properties 1 and 2. Basics: dot products obey the same rule
  2. Simplify

    Since b⃗⋅a⃗=a⃗⋅b⃗\vec b\cdot\vec a = \vec a\cdot\vec b⁠, the middle terms cancel, and a⃗⋅a⃗=∣a⃗∣2\vec a\cdot\vec a = |\vec a|^2⁠, b⃗⋅b⃗=∣b⃗∣2\vec b\cdot\vec b = |\vec b|^2⁠. So the given condition becomes

    ∣a⃗∣2−∣b⃗∣2=8.|\vec a|^2 - |\vec b|^2 = 8.
    The scalar product of a vector with itself is the square of its length, because the angle of a vector with itself is 0 and cos⁡0=1\cos 0 = 1⁠. Nothing about the angle between a⃗\vec a and b⃗\vec b is needed: it cancelled with the middle terms.
    Section 10.6.1, Observations 3 and 7. Lesson: the dot product
  3. Use ∣a⃗∣=8∣b⃗∣|\vec a| = 8|\vec b|

    Squaring, ∣a⃗∣2=64∣b⃗∣2|\vec a|^2 = 64|\vec b|^2⁠. Then

    64∣b⃗∣2−∣b⃗∣2=8⇒63∣b⃗∣2=8⇒∣b⃗∣2=863.\begin{aligned} 64|\vec b|^2 - |\vec b|^2 &= 8 \\ \Rightarrow 63|\vec b|^2 &= 8 \\ \Rightarrow |\vec b|^2 &= \frac{8}{63}. \end{aligned}
    The condition is about ∣a⃗∣|\vec a|⁠, but the equation has ∣a⃗∣2|\vec a|^2⁠, so the factor 8 must be squared too: (8∣b⃗∣)2=64∣b⃗∣2(8|\vec b|)^2 = 64|\vec b|^2⁠, not 8∣b⃗∣28|\vec b|^2⁠. Then there is one unknown, and 64−1=6364 - 1 = 63⁠.
    Substitution into ∣a⃗∣2−∣b⃗∣2=8|\vec a|^2 - |\vec b|^2 = 8⁠. Basics: dot products obey the same rule
  4. Solve for ∣b⃗∣|\vec b|

    ∣b⃗∣=863=863=2237.|\vec b| = \sqrt{\frac{8}{63}} = \frac{\sqrt8}{\sqrt{63}} = \frac{2\sqrt2}{3\sqrt7}.
    The equation t2=863t^2 = \frac{8}{63} has two roots, but t=∣b⃗∣t = |\vec b| is a length, which is never negative, so only the positive root is kept. Then 8=4×2=22\sqrt8 = \sqrt{4 \times 2} = 2\sqrt2 and 63=9×7=37\sqrt{63} = \sqrt{9 \times 7} = 3\sqrt7⁠. Rationalised, this is 21421\frac{2\sqrt{14}}{21}⁠, the same number.
    ∣b⃗∣≥0|\vec b| \ge 0 (Section 10.2). Lesson: the dot product
  5. Find ∣a⃗∣|\vec a|⁠, and check

    ∣a⃗∣=8∣b⃗∣=8×2237=16237.|\vec a| = 8|\vec b| = 8 \times \frac{2\sqrt2}{3\sqrt7} = \frac{16\sqrt2}{3\sqrt7}.

    So ∣a⃗∣=16237|\vec a| = \frac{16\sqrt2}{3\sqrt7} and ∣b⃗∣=2237|\vec b| = \frac{2\sqrt2}{3\sqrt7}. Check: ∣a⃗∣2−∣b⃗∣2=51263−863=50463=8|\vec a|^2 - |\vec b|^2 = \frac{512}{63} - \frac{8}{63} = \frac{504}{63} = 8⁠.

    Putting both lengths back into ∣a⃗∣2−∣b⃗∣2=8|\vec a|^2 - |\vec b|^2 = 8 must return 8, and it does: ∣a⃗∣2=256×29×7=51263|\vec a|^2 = \frac{256 \times 2}{9 \times 7} = \frac{512}{63} and 504=8×63504 = 8 \times 63⁠. The condition ∣a⃗∣=8∣b⃗∣|\vec a| = 8|\vec b| holds by construction.
    ∣a⃗∣2−∣b⃗∣2=8|\vec a|^2 - |\vec b|^2 = 8 from Step 2. Lesson: Examples 13–21
Result

∣a⃗∣=16237|\vec a| = \frac{16\sqrt2}{3\sqrt7} and ∣b⃗∣=2237|\vec b| = \frac{2\sqrt2}{3\sqrt7} (rationalised: 161421\frac{16\sqrt{14}}{21} and 21421\frac{2\sqrt{14}}{21}⁠).

(Textbook answer: 16237\frac{16\sqrt2}{3\sqrt7}⁠, 2237\frac{2\sqrt2}{3\sqrt7}⁠.)

Check it with numbers

∣b⃗∣=2237≈0.356348|\vec b| = \frac{2\sqrt2}{3\sqrt7} \approx 0.356348 and ∣a⃗∣=16237≈2.850787|\vec a| = \frac{16\sqrt2}{3\sqrt7} \approx 2.850787⁠. In exact squares, ∣b⃗∣2=863≈0.126984|\vec b|^2 = \frac{8}{63} \approx 0.126984 and ∣a⃗∣2=51263≈8.126984|\vec a|^2 = \frac{512}{63} \approx 8.126984⁠, and 8.126984−0.126984=8.0000008.126984 - 0.126984 = 8.000000⁠.

A concrete pair: a⃗=16237 i^\vec a = \frac{16\sqrt2}{3\sqrt7}\,\hat i and b⃗=2237 j^\vec b = \frac{2\sqrt2}{3\sqrt7}\,\hat j⁠. Then a⃗⋅b⃗=0\vec a\cdot\vec b = 0⁠, so

(a⃗+b⃗)⋅(a⃗−b⃗)=∣a⃗∣2−∣b⃗∣2=51263−863=8.\begin{aligned} &(\vec a + \vec b)\cdot(\vec a - \vec b) \\ &= |\vec a|^2 - |\vec b|^2 = \frac{512}{63} - \frac{8}{63} = 8. \end{aligned}

Any other directions with the same two lengths work too, because the term a⃗⋅b⃗\vec a\cdot\vec b cancelled.

Common mistakes
  1. Not squaring the 8. ∣a⃗∣2=8∣b⃗∣2|\vec a|^2 = 8|\vec b|^2 would give 7∣b⃗∣2=87|\vec b|^2 = 8⁠; the correct square is 64∣b⃗∣264|\vec b|^2⁠.
  2. Getting ∣a⃗∣2+∣b⃗∣2|\vec a|^2 + |\vec b|^2⁠. The middle terms cancel, and the last term is −b⃗⋅b⃗-\vec b\cdot\vec b⁠, so it is a difference of squares.
  3. Keeping a negative root. ∣b⃗∣=−2237|\vec b| = -\frac{2\sqrt2}{3\sqrt7} is impossible: a length is never negative.
What to take away
  1. (a⃗+b⃗)⋅(a⃗−b⃗)=∣a⃗∣2−∣b⃗∣2(\vec a + \vec b)\cdot(\vec a - \vec b) = |\vec a|^2 - |\vec b|^2⁠, like (a+b)(a−b)=a2−b2(a + b)(a - b) = a^2 - b^2⁠.
  2. A relation between lengths must be squared before it goes into an equation in squares.
  3. Keep only the non-negative root when solving for a length.

Every fact used, and where it comes from

FactUsed inSource
Distributivity of the scalar product; scalars come outStep 1Section 10.6.1, Properties 1 and 2 (Basics: dot products obey the same rule)
Commutativity; r⃗⋅r⃗=∣r⃗∣2\vec r\cdot\vec r = |\vec r|^2Step 2Section 10.6.1, Observations 7 and 3
∣b⃗∣≥0|\vec b| \ge 0Step 4Section 10.2, Note (Lesson: the dot product)
mn=mn\sqrt{\frac{m}{n}} = \frac{\sqrt m}{\sqrt n}⁠, mn=m n\sqrt{mn} = \sqrt m\,\sqrt nStep 4Algebra of surds
The answerResultNCERT answer key, Exercise 10.3 Q6 (Lesson: the dot product)
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